Butt Out, Baby!

Over a year ago my friend Andrew interviewed me for his top-notch podcast, Goodest Notes. For various reasons it got lost to the sands of time until now! Listen for:
+ The story of my use of fanfic in a dark time + Tips I heard on a writing podcast years ago and have never forgot+ Writing stereotypes and unpacking the note "you don't need to show your work"+ Hear me fumble through questions I hadn't prepared answers for! 
Goodest Notes podcast 
Goodest Notes was created by Andrew Shenkman and Drew Thomas. This episode was edited by moi. ellie@buttoutbaby.com
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Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Finding Nice Jewish Boy media icons in strange places 
How to deal with plosives in your recordings 
A novel recommendation 
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Music by Claire Whitehead

At dinnertime, Lisa and Baby are presented with Bachelor number 1 and 2. Featuring Mari Cohen of Jewish Currents. 
+ Learning about the terms Jewish American Princess and Nice Jewish Boy + The politics of "Jewish continuity" + The parental scolding line, "There are starving children in..."+ My dislike of white tablecloths
Mari and Jewish Currents works mentioned:One the Nose podcast, "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Jewish Matchmaking"Mari's review of the Lox Club dating app
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Follow the show on InstagramFashion commentary (usually) by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead aka Claire Maeve aka Midswim 
 

Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
BAD BOYS like Johnny, Han Solo, John Bender from Breakfast Club, Derek from Save the Last Dance
What "college boy" means.
How to promote (or not) an indie podcast
Podcast The Newsletter
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Music by Claire Whitehead

Baby gets her first glimpse into the class structure at Kellerman's ft. Morgan & Isabeau of Whoa!mance 
+ Johnny being attractive and gracefully insolent + The female gaze   + The strange all-inclusive guest experience of Kellerman's + How bad boy romance leads are introduced and whether Dirty Dancing qualifies as a romance at all! 
Whoa!mance: a weekly podcast about Romance Novels and Ourselves
For your scene 4 thoughts: ellie@buttoutbaby.com
Follow the show on InstagramFashion commentary by visual artist, Christy Kunitzky
Music by Claire Whitehead

Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
The harms of misusing science in persuasive arguments 
Lots of craft talk about interviews! Including a cringey clip from my past
Resources mentioned:Ira Glass on pulling out big ideas in an interview All My Relations podcast episode, "Telling True Stories in a Good Way"
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Music by Claire Whitehead

The Houseman's participate in a merengue dance class led by a vibrant and confident dance instructor named Penny. Featuring an interview with a real life dancer and dance instructor. 
+ Western culture's relationship to dance+ Baby's awkwardness pt. 1+ Mrs. Schumacher being a deviant  + The Rockettes and the gender pay gap+ Ingénue (not the k.d. lang album, tho it's mentioned)
 
Marea is not just a dancer/dance instructor, she's also a writer and actor. Check her out if you're in New Zealand!
 
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Music by Claire Whitehead

Debrief episodes are for listener feedback on the previous scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. In this episode:
Three stories about the Jim Crow era that felt special enough to share but had to be cut from the last episode
The ethics of paying documentary subjects
Why I hate the phrase "kill your darlings"
Plus I go on a journey with some tea biscuits  
Resources mentioned (and others that were used):Parting the Waters: America in the King Years 1954-1963 by Taylor Branch
Law, Society, Identity and the Making of the Jim Crow South: Travel and Segregation on Tennessee Railroads, 1875-1905 by Kenneth W. Mack
Dark Sky Rising: Reconstruction and the Dawn of Jim Crow by Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Tonya Bolden 
Ida B. the Queen: The Extraordinary Life and Legacy of Ida B. Wells by Michelle Duster
The Up Series 
Paris is Burning Instagramellie@buttoutbaby.com
Music by Claire Whitehead

Jake and Baby school Lisa on what defines a "real" tragedy which led me on a long journey into the history of Jim Crow. Featuring an interview on the Southern Jewish experience with author TK Thorne. 
+ Walk Like A Hieroglyph+ With what to wear with coral shoes?+ A very mysterious joke + The moral authority of Jake Housman
 
TK's book:
Behind the Magic Curtain: Secrets, Spies and Unsung White Allies of Birmingham’s Civil Rights Days by TK Thorne 
tkthorne.com 
 
Other resources:Parting the Waters: America in the King Years 1954-1963 by Taylor Branch
The Road Not Taken: Edward Lansdale and the American Tragedy in Vietnam by Max Boot
Close-Up on War: The Story of Photojournalist Catherine Leroy in Vietnam by Mary Cronk Farrell
Carry Me Home: Birmingham, Alabama: The Climactic Battle of the Civil Rights Revolution by Diane McWhorter 
 
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Music by Claire Whitehead

Debrief episodes will be the place to discuss listener feedback on each scene and the hows and whys of making a podcast like this. This is for the craft nerds! Also, discussed was my struggle to define liberalism and you'll hear me learn the definition of "equivocate" in real time!
Articles I reference about witch trails:
Interview with Rivka Galchen
Spectral Evidence 
And History Chicks episode where I learned about Sojourner Truth
 
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